Comments on: Advice for John McCain

By: sunstatepolitical

sunstatepolitical — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:34:29 +0000

I’d be interested to know in what capacity, when & where, “johnie2xs” served in the military? I served as an Airborne Infantryman in the United States Army from 1990-1994 when I received an “Honorable Discharge,” but I doubt this person even really knows what that means? Did he or she get “Chaptered” out of the service because he or she was “fat” and couldn’t hang with the rest? This commenter is more likely just another paid plant or volunteer dolt for the Obama camp…? A Loser either way.
I figured I should just dispense with thoughtful dialogue and fight ad hominen attack with ad hominen attack, because it doesn’t seem like this individual can employ a truly thoughtful argument. Palin has been a working Wife, Mother, Mayor, and Governor. WHAT have YOU done lately???
Mr. Miller wrote a great article about some things that McCain could do to enhance his position in the voter marketplace as it were. I hope he takes the advice!
Another thing – I don’t care to go along to get along with Socialists in the Democrat Party or impostors within my own Republican Party who pose as true [Classical Liberal]Conservatives. There are distinctions, so let’s state them “loud & proud” as Jamie has suggested. I don’t need to get in touch with why they’re feeling the way they’re feeling. I know the way people like Johnie think. They think, “What’s mine [theirs] is mine [theirs] and what’s yours is mine [theirs]!” My current economic situation is due largely to poor decisions I have made, and I have nobody else to blame, for the most part.

By: repjam@aol.com

repjam@aol.com — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:23:16 +0000

I always appreciate the responses. This article was referenced in the Orlando Sentinel today.

http://tiny.cc/57Z5v

So, Johnnie, now not only the Peace Corps, but volunteers for Americorps, the Salvation Armay, et. al should get the same benefits as men and women in the military?

One is risking their life, the other is not. It’s that simple. From a parent who will have draft-age boys during this next Administration, Obama and his risky plans scare the heck out of me because he isn’t going to be able to get out of Iraq (and if he does, he says he’s just moving those troops to Afghanistan), and he will have to institute a draft to get the number of people needed to protect our homeland — especially if everyone can avoid military service by joining the Peace Corps or volunteer at their local animal shelter (which is what Obama’s idea will eventually grow into).

By: johnie2xs

johnie2xs — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:24:22 +0000

Erin68; Whoa! Take a chill pill! Point for point;
1) I never meant to intimate being a veterans as a “moment in the sun” position. The high school reference was only meant to make the point that we all have our own ways of contributing, and deserve respect for whatever way we choose to do it. I was trying to address the imbalance between a vet and a peace corp volunteer intimated by the previous commenter. My purpose was to point out our equality.
Now relative to prosecuting war to “preserve freedom”; Whose freedom? The oil companies? The Zionist Israeli state? (Remember, not all Jews are Zionists).
2) Come on, give me a break. Tongue in cheek? Heard of it?
3) Yes. So is Americorp, The Salvation Army, The United Way, et al.
4) Sexist? Palin is a cartoon. She is an embarrassment. I’m sorry if you don’t like the way I stated my dislike for her by using terms you may find reprehensible, but the mere attempt to foist her on our country as a possible VP deserves what it gets. Why are you not embarrassed? And I can guarantee you, I am not a sexist. My mother would never have allowed it. Wooden spoons hurt(Italian mother, ya’know).
5) What did I say about dope smokers? I don’t anymore, but as they say “in the day” I did my share, I assure you.
One more thing. Check out comment #5

By: Erin68

Erin68 — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:42:42 +0000

1) Being a veteran of war is not a “moment in the sun” position. When someone stands in the midst of battle for their country, they are and should be regarded with highest esteem and distinction. I am not a veteran and would in no way compare my life experiences to those of someone who has served and risked his/her life for us. War does not trump peace obviously; however, war has been and will be sometimes necessary to preserve freedom and restore peace. Comparing a soldier to a sport’s star demeans life itself. My voice and my vote is legal and significant due to the sacrifices of war and the individuals who fought.

2) Rodney King is (while I’m sure a very nice person) not a philosopher. Hopefully, we are exposed to enough culture to know this.

3) The Peace Corp is a noble endeavor by individuals willing to sacrifice to improve the lives of others. God Bless ya.

4) It is sexist and discriminatory to refer to a female politician or any female with language such as “Bering Strait Barbie, Dizzy Debutant Dolt, trailer park beauty pageant contestant.” In 2008, we are still struggling for women’s rights and equality. We cannot accuse others of using hate rhetoric while issuing vitriolic attacks that are personal in nature or otherwise. We will never “all get along” speaking to each other with venomous disregard.

5) Why pick on dope smokers????

By: johnie2xs

johnie2xs — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:16:09 +0000

I just read this. You all might find it interesting.
Bon Appetit’.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-10/the-conservative-case-for-obama/

By: johnie2xs

johnie2xs — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:58:37 +0000

Dear “sunstatepolitical”; First off, I too am a veteran, but first and foremost I’m a person. Having been a veteran gives me no greater distinction than anyone else in this country who is concerned about where it is, and we are going next. It only shows a difference in the path taken. You know, not everyone in high school can be the sports star, or the cheerleader, or any one of a number of fleeting “moment in the sun” type positions, growing up. We all grow into our own ways of contributing to our shared existence. To believe that a person who dedicates themselves to an endeavor, like the Peace Corp, is any lesser than those who serve under arms, could be extrapolated to mean that War trumps Peace. I’m sure you can’t be meaning that.
I am a Progressive, but I hold many Conservative values, consequently I’m not sure that I am easily categorized, nor do I want to be. I am a believer in the views of that great 20th Century philosopher, Rodney King, who sagely quipped, “Can’t we all just get along?” We are now in the midst of a most dire of situations, and snarky attacks will get us nowhere. My poking at McCain is a way of highlighting the fact that his campaign is a cynical attempt to gain the Presidency with all the style of swinging wildly at a pinata. There’s no there, there. Palin is a not just a joke, she’s a danger. It is no less than the next step toward the further dumbing down of America, as if we can afford any continuation of that. Obama is truly the lesser of two evils, and the most recent example of what we have wrought from the system we have fostered. The corrupting aspects of “Money Politics” is why, I believe, we are where we are. Until, and unless, this is corrected the future just offers us more of the same.
Oh, and Year1Media, thanks for the kudo.

Johnie2xs, again

By: sunstatepolitical

sunstatepolitical — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:02:46 +0000

A very well written and articulate piece. Voters are longing for somone to vote for and neither has “closed the deal” by “connecting-the-dots” as Jamie clearly states. As for your “loving progressive friend(s)” above…they don’t seem like they are either. They do seem fairly adept at offering hollow analysis and name-calling though! If we don’t agree with them, we must be “tools” of the Party?
As somone who has served in our military, I can say that offering the same, or similar, benefits to the Peace Corps crowd is akin to a slap in the face to so many men and women who have served our still great, albeit imperfect, Nation.

By: Year1Media

Year1Media — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:13:32 +0000

Well said johnie2xs!

Palin is just another tool of the party. No one expects McCain to last 4 years, especially after THIS campaign season. This is his last hurrah, and Palin is just the next puppet in line. I don’t blame McCain entirely and believe that he was “sold” on Palin by Karl Rove and the others. Her inexperience and insecurity is just what the party needs to maintain their control behind the scenes. Currently there are 3 campaings going on: McCain’s, Obama’s, and Palin’s. Hers is absolutlely seperate from his, and I think he feels like a sucker now.

Palin is the same as GW. NO ONE thinks that GW has ever made a decision on his own. He burned up all of his critical thinking skills with cocaine decades ago. Palin will continue leading us on our steady decline into fascism, with her own inability to make decisions without consultation.

The only thing worse than waking up on November 5th and finding out that our new president is an African Muslim (his father was, so by birth he WAS) named Barack Hussein Obama, would be to see some trailer park beauty pageant contestant ready to take over when her cancer ridden predecessor kicks the bucket before he takes office.

Let’s ALL stop being TOOLS of the party, and start becoming students of the game.

By: johnie2xs

johnie2xs — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:01:03 +0000

This response is dedicated to James Garner, who by the way has called , and would like his name back. It’s bad enough that that Scientological* couch jumper co-opted it. Now this.
How in hell does the term even relate to McCain, anyway? Does it have to do with his fiber intake and his proclivity to roaming around the countryside?
You and your Republican ilk, Jamie, are truly delusional this time round. Your “truth” is bent by the heat waves given off by your hate inducing rhetoric, like mirages in the desert.
A good example of this is your distortion of civilian service, and that it is in some way being disrespectful to our military. For you to even think this, makes me wonder if it would be even worth my time to try to make you understand how bankrupt an idea like that really is. All a belief like that is, is fuel for the hateful ire produced by the crowds you say are “ignited”, by your “Bering Strait Barbie’s” so called ability at base pumping.
As far as any true lover of “our country” is concerned, this attitude couldn’t be any further from the McCain mantra of “Country First”, that he claims as his, as if he holds title to it.
For you people(meaning Republicans), to be accepting of a “Dizzy Debutante Dolt” like Palin, being a heartbeat away from the Presidency, behind a four time cancer patient without any reservations, I dare say you are anything BUT people who put their “Country First”. You may think Johnny Mac has a chance, but I’m here to tell you short of a declaration of Martial Law and the canceling of the election (Which I believe has some real possibilities), Johnnie has a better chance of Palin learning Russian by listening to a Russian broadcast of Dr. Zhivago.
See you guys in ’12. Can’t wait to see who you dig up then. Who knows, with some tax incentives for reanimation technologies, You might even get your Papa Reagan back. But I gotta tell ya’, that without parallel advancements in Alzheimer research, you’d be better off with a time machine so you could go back, to say 1977, when maybe he already wasn’t showing signs.

Your Loving Progressive Friend;
Johnie 2xs, Johnie2xs

*In the age of Bush,word construction is open to all.